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		<title>By: Floral Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floral Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother-in-law is an Iranian Jew so my entire diet revolves around rice. It&#039;s horrible because not only do you gain weight, but you&#039;re always really bloated. I&#039;ve tried all kinds of fad diets from detox to the no carbs or sugar diets and all that I&#039;ve done is gain the weight back after I stopped dieting.
I am an editor for Powderroomgraffiti.com and have come across your blog. We have a similar article on out site if you would like to see it. I would love for you to write articles for us which you will be paid for. It would also be great if you would link to our site. Please let me know if you&#039;re interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother-in-law is an Iranian Jew so my entire diet revolves around rice. It&#8217;s horrible because not only do you gain weight, but you&#8217;re always really bloated. I&#8217;ve tried all kinds of fad diets from detox to the no carbs or sugar diets and all that I&#8217;ve done is gain the weight back after I stopped dieting.<br />
I am an editor for Powderroomgraffiti.com and have come across your blog. We have a similar article on out site if you would like to see it. I would love for you to write articles for us which you will be paid for. It would also be great if you would link to our site. Please let me know if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>By: kmcdade</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmcdade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the excellent advice, Lia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the excellent advice, Lia!</p>
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		<title>By: kmcdade</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmcdade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely think there&#039;s no one right way that works for everyone. Thanks for commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely think there&#8217;s no one right way that works for everyone. Thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: kmcdade</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmcdade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right about the sodium. I was shocked when I started tracking it. And yes, the biggest thing is avoiding processed/packaged foods.  

Good luck with your plan! Sounds like you&#039;re off to a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right about the sodium. I was shocked when I started tracking it. And yes, the biggest thing is avoiding processed/packaged foods.  </p>
<p>Good luck with your plan! Sounds like you&#8217;re off to a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: kmcdade</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmcdade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a good one to check out, Melissa - thanks! 

I tend to go overboard on sourdough if it&#039;s around, too (I assume that&#039;s why you don&#039;t keep it around).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good one to check out, Melissa &#8211; thanks! </p>
<p>I tend to go overboard on sourdough if it&#8217;s around, too (I assume that&#8217;s why you don&#8217;t keep it around).</p>
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		<title>By: kmcdade</title>
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		<dc:creator>kmcdade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Life Without Bread sounds incredibly depressing! :-) But really, I don&#039;t eat bread that much any more. Thanks for the recommendations. Love and miss you too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life Without Bread sounds incredibly depressing! <img src='http://www.technoearthmama.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But really, I don&#8217;t eat bread that much any more. Thanks for the recommendations. Love and miss you too!</p>
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		<title>By: VelvetAckbar</title>
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		<dc:creator>VelvetAckbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok...a couple of more things:

&quot;I do see your point about monoculture; certainly grain crops can be unsustainable (although I wonder if all are?).&quot;

Most are. Most grains are grown on former grassland. That grassland wasn&#039;t used to grow cultivated grains, they were used to grow grasses. Cellulose. that cellulose was then eaten by ruminants and then we killed the ruminants, digested them.

Grass doesn&#039;t take as much water as grain to grow. It kinda grow wild out there, and its pretty self-sustaining. Look at Salatin, and his farming operation. No grains, and grass just comes back after the cows chomp it to the ground (or chickenses, like we had in our yard for several years.) Their poo provides the nutrients back to the soil.

Watering crops brings up another issue: soil salination, eventually leading to desertification. The longer you water soil from ground sources, the more salt you bring up from the ground, and the more dispersed that salt becomes over the ground you are trying to water. Once the saline content in the soil reaches a tipping point, the only way to keep the soil productive is to add MORE water, the dilute the salinity. Keep in mind that at one time, the &quot;Fertile Crescent&quot; was...erm...fertile. Now, most of it is desert. 


&quot;Here’s another thing that confuses me, though — so many cultures around the world (as far as I know) do base their diet on grains, and it seems to be a very long-standing practice. So I have a hard time believing it’s really that bad.&quot;

Wait. hold for a moment.

Nomadic cultures wouldn&#039;t be cultivating grains, at least not to the extent that our diet is based on grains. Oh, sure, if they ran across a wheat field, and if they could boil water they would eat it. Corn? Not so much...they would have to have a ready source of Lime to perform nixtamalization, otherwise its Pollegra city! 

The problem with grains is that in their raw form, they aren&#039;t readily bio=available. eat some corn kernals, wait a few hours, and you will see that they just pass right through, resisting all but the most basic digestion, same with wheat kernels and oat groats. 

These items were cultivated, assuredly, as a staple for cities. Only cities could afford the infrastructure that would be required to grow most grains. There are a few theories that these items were cultivated for their fermentation properties. It seems that everyone likes their booze, even nomads.

Nomadic peoples relied on animal protein and wild fruits and veggies. This is what we evolved on. The fact that we are able to digest other things is a testament to our ability to tide our stomachs over in leaner times, not that we should be eating high carbohydrate foods all the time.

I also want to make it clear that YOU are an exception, Kathy:

The vast majority of Americans aren&#039;t looking at meals as protein/veg/carbs. They are looking at CARBS/protein. Veg gets left out entirely. Pizza and beer. Hamburger and frenchfries. Coke and Chips. Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich with corn chips. Chips and salsa (before beans and rice.) Cookies and milk. Cake and Icecream.

You get the idea. Keep in mind that in almost all the above items is corn/wheat or some other source of grain.

Now, I am not a scientist. Nor am I particularly smart. You can discard my advice at will, but I want to you to keep a few things in mind: 

Cancer rates are through the roof.
Diabetes is going up, up, up.
Framingham study.
Earl Butz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230;a couple of more things:</p>
<p>&#8220;I do see your point about monoculture; certainly grain crops can be unsustainable (although I wonder if all are?).&#8221;</p>
<p>Most are. Most grains are grown on former grassland. That grassland wasn&#8217;t used to grow cultivated grains, they were used to grow grasses. Cellulose. that cellulose was then eaten by ruminants and then we killed the ruminants, digested them.</p>
<p>Grass doesn&#8217;t take as much water as grain to grow. It kinda grow wild out there, and its pretty self-sustaining. Look at Salatin, and his farming operation. No grains, and grass just comes back after the cows chomp it to the ground (or chickenses, like we had in our yard for several years.) Their poo provides the nutrients back to the soil.</p>
<p>Watering crops brings up another issue: soil salination, eventually leading to desertification. The longer you water soil from ground sources, the more salt you bring up from the ground, and the more dispersed that salt becomes over the ground you are trying to water. Once the saline content in the soil reaches a tipping point, the only way to keep the soil productive is to add MORE water, the dilute the salinity. Keep in mind that at one time, the &#8220;Fertile Crescent&#8221; was&#8230;erm&#8230;fertile. Now, most of it is desert. </p>
<p>&#8220;Here’s another thing that confuses me, though — so many cultures around the world (as far as I know) do base their diet on grains, and it seems to be a very long-standing practice. So I have a hard time believing it’s really that bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait. hold for a moment.</p>
<p>Nomadic cultures wouldn&#8217;t be cultivating grains, at least not to the extent that our diet is based on grains. Oh, sure, if they ran across a wheat field, and if they could boil water they would eat it. Corn? Not so much&#8230;they would have to have a ready source of Lime to perform nixtamalization, otherwise its Pollegra city! </p>
<p>The problem with grains is that in their raw form, they aren&#8217;t readily bio=available. eat some corn kernals, wait a few hours, and you will see that they just pass right through, resisting all but the most basic digestion, same with wheat kernels and oat groats. </p>
<p>These items were cultivated, assuredly, as a staple for cities. Only cities could afford the infrastructure that would be required to grow most grains. There are a few theories that these items were cultivated for their fermentation properties. It seems that everyone likes their booze, even nomads.</p>
<p>Nomadic peoples relied on animal protein and wild fruits and veggies. This is what we evolved on. The fact that we are able to digest other things is a testament to our ability to tide our stomachs over in leaner times, not that we should be eating high carbohydrate foods all the time.</p>
<p>I also want to make it clear that YOU are an exception, Kathy:</p>
<p>The vast majority of Americans aren&#8217;t looking at meals as protein/veg/carbs. They are looking at CARBS/protein. Veg gets left out entirely. Pizza and beer. Hamburger and frenchfries. Coke and Chips. Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich with corn chips. Chips and salsa (before beans and rice.) Cookies and milk. Cake and Icecream.</p>
<p>You get the idea. Keep in mind that in almost all the above items is corn/wheat or some other source of grain.</p>
<p>Now, I am not a scientist. Nor am I particularly smart. You can discard my advice at will, but I want to you to keep a few things in mind: </p>
<p>Cancer rates are through the roof.<br />
Diabetes is going up, up, up.<br />
Framingham study.<br />
Earl Butz.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who takes care of people every day who are suffering serious complications of diabetes or obesity or diabetes and obesity, the idea that eating whole grains contributed in any way to their conditions is laughable. Or would be, if it were anything to joke about.
.-= Wendy&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sixboxesofbooks.blogspot.com/2010/01/reactions-as-they-happen.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reactions As They Happen&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who takes care of people every day who are suffering serious complications of diabetes or obesity or diabetes and obesity, the idea that eating whole grains contributed in any way to their conditions is laughable. Or would be, if it were anything to joke about.<br />
.-= Wendy&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://sixboxesofbooks.blogspot.com/2010/01/reactions-as-they-happen.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/sixboxesofbooks.blogspot.com/2010/01/reactions-as-they-happen.html?referer=');">Reactions As They Happen</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a look at monoculture issues...Michael Pollan&#039;s Omnivore&#039;s Dilemma.  For something to read regarding carbohydrates...Good Calories, Bad Calories.  For something to read about carbohydrate restriction without giving up carbohydrates completely...Life Without Bread.  Also, either Good Calories, Bad Calories or Life Without Bread (I forget which one)  addresses the issue of traditional diets over time and how primarily grain-based diets from other cultures fit into the author&#039;s overall view on carbohydrates. 

I&#039;ve heard great things about the new styles of rice cookers.  Like Wendy says, I&#039;ve heard they make great brown rice, when you need it, and keep it well for a long time.

Love you Kathy!  Love you Wendy!  Miss you both!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a look at monoculture issues&#8230;Michael Pollan&#8217;s Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma.  For something to read regarding carbohydrates&#8230;Good Calories, Bad Calories.  For something to read about carbohydrate restriction without giving up carbohydrates completely&#8230;Life Without Bread.  Also, either Good Calories, Bad Calories or Life Without Bread (I forget which one)  addresses the issue of traditional diets over time and how primarily grain-based diets from other cultures fit into the author&#8217;s overall view on carbohydrates. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard great things about the new styles of rice cookers.  Like Wendy says, I&#8217;ve heard they make great brown rice, when you need it, and keep it well for a long time.</p>
<p>Love you Kathy!  Love you Wendy!  Miss you both!</p>
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		<title>By: Lia Hollander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lia Hollander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Type 2 diabetes is essentially a break down of the body. When the body has been &quot;abused&quot; (too much weight: must work harder than it should) it breaks down.

That being said, as a Type 1 diabetic (where a virus has attacked my pancreas, leaving it unable to make any insulin) the best way I have found to control my blood sugars is with exercise, proper insulin dosage and meals composed of protein, and complex carbohydrates. The fiber in whole wheat bread, brown rice, etc. slows the blood sugar spike, and keeps me full longer.

While white rice, french bread and the like sure taste good, it takes my body for a roller coaster of hell for up to 8 hours later (I can only imagine what it does to yours). So I actively choose not to eat it.

But the most powerful lesson of all this has been understanding correct portion sizes. I weigh 90% of my food and it has made a huge difference.

You also need to like the food you are eating. Experiment with spices (no calories, super flavor) and different cooking methods so that eating is still exciting.

To recap:

1. Only complex carbohydrates (the Glyclemic Index can help with this, although it can be a little tricky).

2. Eat food that tastes good because it is made of good things.

3. Eat correct portions sizes.

4. Don&#039;t worry so much about the short term, it&#039;s your long term plan that counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Type 2 diabetes is essentially a break down of the body. When the body has been &#8220;abused&#8221; (too much weight: must work harder than it should) it breaks down.</p>
<p>That being said, as a Type 1 diabetic (where a virus has attacked my pancreas, leaving it unable to make any insulin) the best way I have found to control my blood sugars is with exercise, proper insulin dosage and meals composed of protein, and complex carbohydrates. The fiber in whole wheat bread, brown rice, etc. slows the blood sugar spike, and keeps me full longer.</p>
<p>While white rice, french bread and the like sure taste good, it takes my body for a roller coaster of hell for up to 8 hours later (I can only imagine what it does to yours). So I actively choose not to eat it.</p>
<p>But the most powerful lesson of all this has been understanding correct portion sizes. I weigh 90% of my food and it has made a huge difference.</p>
<p>You also need to like the food you are eating. Experiment with spices (no calories, super flavor) and different cooking methods so that eating is still exciting.</p>
<p>To recap:</p>
<p>1. Only complex carbohydrates (the Glyclemic Index can help with this, although it can be a little tricky).</p>
<p>2. Eat food that tastes good because it is made of good things.</p>
<p>3. Eat correct portions sizes.</p>
<p>4. Don&#8217;t worry so much about the short term, it&#8217;s your long term plan that counts.</p>
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